φ-Phi vrs ORCH-OR: As Above, So Below. Towards a Science of Consciousness Conference, Tuscon, April 2014
φ-Phi vrs ORCH-OR: As Above, So Below
Towards a Science of Consciousness Conference, Tuscon, April 2014
Dialogue over 2014 following the Towards a Science of Consciousness Conference, Tuscon, Arizona, 2014 between Stuart Hameroff MD and Nigel Reading RIBA:
The role of shared Asynsis geometries in two rival leading theories of consciousness, the classical computational Phi-Integrated Information Theory of Giulio Tononi and the quantum-gravity computational Orchestrated Objective Reduction Theory of Roger Penrose & Stuart Hameroff – can their common Asynsis geometries be the bridge?
Hameroff-Reading Dialogue – 2014
Notes on Christof Koch (supporter of Phi-IIT) Interview in Nautilus Issue 19
Koch:“In a sense it takes us back to Pythagoras—you know in Sicily, the Greek philosopher and mathematician in Sicily who said that everything is ultimately numbers.It ultimately makes this assertion that consciousness is a particular informational structure in a high dimensional space.”Sounds just like the elementary #Asynsis geometry E8 ToE of Garrett Lisi (please also refer to Galileo’s irreducible Φ – Cyclotomic roots of Unity(?) reference on page 164 of Tononi’s Φ book):http://deferentialgeometry.org/epe/epe4/
http://www.nature.com/scientificamerican/journal/v23/n3s/full/scientificamericanuniverse0814-96.html“… So that’s the advantage of IIT. So IIT—finally, we have something that philosophers have not been able to do over the last 2,600 years with a precise mathematical definition of what it is, how to measure it. In fact, that’s … It has this number called Φ that measures sort of the quantity. It has an informational structure that measures the quality of it so you can now make some very precise statements about consciousness.”So like Hofstadter’s loops, my mind (and yours) are on my mind, and the amazing fact that both the leading Φ-IIT and OrchOR theories of consciousness are based on the #Universality of #SelfOrganisedCritical #Asynsis geometries facilitating maximum entropy generation and universality computation via optimal energy dissipation (perhaps even emerging from a quantum-classical neo-Platonic scale for OrchOR).So to cuisine; it seems the Promethean invention of cooking allowed for our better (calorie) burning (and information processing), brains. (Good) Form follows (True) Flow in information processing too.Cooking food means the energy otherwise used for the digestion of raw food in apes can instead be used to power our brains. So our minds are like the cooking fire, fuelled by more calorific material (just like wood and oxygen would have done for a real primordial fire in the African Rift Valley where we evolved), burning bigger and brighter, emitting more heat and light.
More energy equals higher order phase transitions, higher dimensions or nested permutations and feedback, taking our minds to a regime analogous to Penrose tessellations, the Chaotic bands of the Feigenbaum diagram or the infinitely varied, multi-scale boundary of the Mandelbrot set.The lowest energy, optimal and analogical route to those regimes is via the golden ratio – #AsynsisConstructal path. Entropy is generated, but because it is an energy-dissipative, exothermic combustion process (like a flame emitting heat and light), local entropy is reduced – the flowing flame form being like a plasma, while global entropy is exported – in the form of smoke and ashes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FirePerhaps the reason flame-like consciousness has a fractal, holographic multidimensional nature can originally be traced to the #Asynsis Icosahedral/Dodecahedral dual E8 Lie group, since it may be the fundamental, elementary geometry that our world emerges from?So I suggest that we are more conscious than say, a chimp (or any other creature) – because our brains burn brighter, consuming more energy for our body mass, than theirs do. That higher Φ-IIT value results from a higher order phase-transition/dimensional regime of neuronal processes, generated by greater energy consumption per body mass than any other animal.What might that higher dimensional computational space be ultimately derived from?The suggestion is: Life’s Spark is Ignited from the Quantum (“cloud-computing”) realm, as an #Asynsis geometry-fractal resonance up into the Classical scale as Universality in “devices and apps” like us.
Φ-IIT/OrchOR Consciousness is its Apple-like (synergised hardware-software) apotheosis.http://www.economist.com/news/books-and-arts/21633782-how-quantum-theory-helping-explain-mysteries-life-science-natureSo Bon Appetit! #AsynsisConstructal.
φ-Phi by Giulio Tononi: Evoking the
#AsynsisConstructal paradigm as a key Synergy behind Human Consciousness, explicitly on Page 164.
Seeking a “middle path” between the Orch OR & Phi-IIT positions by exploring their common optimal, analogical geometries
Some Asynsis-Constructal speculations on the relationships between the Orch OR theory of Penrose-Hameroff-Bandyopadhyay and Phi-IIT theory of Tononi-Koch-Tegmark in terms of Chalmer’s Hard problem of the subjective self and optimal, analogical geometries.
Based on exchanges with the principals immediately after the TSC Conference at the University of Arizona, Tuscon, April 2014